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    Episode 4: Jon Mooallem

    Evan Ratliff talks with Jon Mooallem, contributing writer at the New York Times Magazine and author of an upcoming book on people and wild animals.

    “If I just kind of assume it’s going to work out one way or another, it can be a real fun adventure to find the path from here to there. You know, hopefully just as you do more, that excitement starts to outweigh the horror of messing up.”

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